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posted on 27-9-2008 at 16:38
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Any Millers Tech Questions?
I don't want to step on oilmans toes here as he knows his stuff.
If anyone has any Millers specific questions then I should be able to answer them.
Not a sales pitch, I just enjoy my job 110% and like to help others if they have questions.
Cheers,
ChrisGTL
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posted on 29-9-2008 at 13:46
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Welcome to the forum Chris, im sure the questions will arise on a need to know basis, are you able to talk exclusive discounts for Dervhead.
Where's my biodiesel & new job.
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posted on 29-9-2008 at 20:05
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Kinda curious of the science behind the sport 4 stuff. I use it religiously in my derv but I'm never that sure why? :D
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posted on 30-9-2008 at 09:42
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What was the ingredient that was causing problems in the old Millers to some euro4 engines?
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posted on 2-10-2008 at 21:58
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TDIfurby
Kinda curious of the science behind the sport 4 stuff. I use it religiously in my derv but I'm never that sure why? :D |
This is why :) http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=188065
What do you find the DPS4 does for your car?
It has a brilliant detergency pack to clean pistons, crowns, fuel filter, EGR/CCV gases.
Good lubrication properties to help the fuel pump/rails/injectors stay nice.
Obviously the cetane booster to give the power increase.
And finally good reductions in harmful emissions to keep you green.
Edit** - With the increase BIO in diesel DPS4 also helps the fuel filter.
Because Biodiesel attracts water unlike non-bio, and water in fuel is not a good combination due to the amount of 'bugs' that can grow and spread
quickly. Bacteria and mould grow on the fuel filter eventualy starving injectors and such like, DPS4 prevents ANY bacteria/mould from growing thus
keeping everything working like its brand new. :)
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ChrisGTL
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posted on 2-10-2008 at 22:06
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ROCKETRON
What was the ingredient that was causing problems in the old Millers to some euro4 engines? |
For obvious reason I can't give specific info out on 'ingedients' - I like my job too much to be sacked.
The problem for Euro4 engines was the DPF, using the Power Plus product would see a slight increase in Ash content, and after 60k miles the DPF would
have been clogged with ash (not good)
The DPS4 does not have a Ash issue, so the DPF's stay happy.
It is also worth mentioning the fact that the detergent pack inside a power plus bottle would have actualy cleaned the DPF ash content, but instead
of that Millers went for a new product with a new name and a new look.
People seem to be happy with it, Halfords are really happy with it and they are quite fussy as to what they put on their shelves.
Hope this helps....
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posted on 3-10-2008 at 13:19
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At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued, engine also seems a tad quieter, but no where near as quiet when running on 30%
biodiesel.
Where's my biodiesel & new job.
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posted on 3-10-2008 at 14:46
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| Quote: | Originally posted by stu4rtparker
At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued. |
Increase in mpg? I.E. the fuel consumption became worse?
As I get older I find myself thinking about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.
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posted on 3-10-2008 at 16:04
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| Quote: | Originally posted by PaulR
| Quote: | Originally posted by stu4rtparker
At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued. |
Increase in mpg? I.E. the fuel consumption became worse? |
?
only from the fuel companys' point of view.
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stu4rtparker
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posted on 3-10-2008 at 16:07
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| Quote: | Originally posted by PaulR
| Quote: | Originally posted by stu4rtparker
At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued. |
Increase in mpg? I.E. the fuel consumption became worse? |
opps better mpg.
Where's my biodiesel & new job.
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gio
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 19:36
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Bought some of that 4plus stuff prior to my trip last week to lake garda.
Normally do not fill the bus up just put 20 or 30 litres in when she needs it,so only time i do mpg is on trips abroad, which usually means full tank
when leaving Leicester fill up at Luxenbourg,although she could go a lot further,and the when ever need be.
Does it improve mpg? you see i got two tankfuls to do 50.8 and 51.4mpg both over 500 miles plus runs, from Luxembourg to garda and the return
distance.
The run from Leicester to Luxembourg 425.5 miles was 45mpg.
the return looks about the same [not topped up yet.
Last year the same distances gave 45.9mpg against this years 45mpg. and 48mpg against this years 50.8mpg.
the 51.4mpg this year,is up against the 50.2mpg last year except i came back a different route.
Last years return fill at Luxembourg to home gave a figure of 48 mpg[which i don't expect this years return to get anywhere near]
Will now look at how long each route took[sad gitt am i]to see if the ave speeds differ by much,otherwise i do not see a great difference in mpg.
That said i don't believe the bus is running at 100% so i could be wrong,in which case those figures are pretty good, as i believe she lacks a little
umph at the moment.
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 20:24
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| Quote: | Originally posted by PaulR
| Quote: | Originally posted by stu4rtparker
At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued. |
Increase in mpg? I.E. the fuel consumption became worse? |
Yes, why not, I'd settle for an increase in Miles per Gallon.
40mpg is an increase over 30mpg isn't it?
Increased MPG is reduced fuel consumption.
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TDIfurby
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 23:03
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ChrisGTL
What do you find the DPS4 does for your car?
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I find it helps it run better generally 
A bit less roughness in the engine (needs all the anti-roughing it can get with what I've done to it) and I tend to get higher mileage (mainly due to
it being smoother in lower revs so I can use 1500rpm and lower a bit more)
Obviously, at the other end of the scale, I find the car more willing to rev hard, and I get strong power.
I can't say it's a miracle substance, and it's the reason my car is as fast as it is. I'm finding that methanol is proving quite effective as a
performance increasing chemical too - tastes good as well.  
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 23:25
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Isn't methanol rather toxic?
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 23:37
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Scanner
| Quote: | Originally posted by PaulR
| Quote: | Originally posted by stu4rtparker
At first I saw a slight increase in mpg & that has continued. |
Increase in mpg? I.E. the fuel consumption became worse? |
Yes, why not, I'd settle for an increase in Miles per Gallon.
40mpg is an increase over 30mpg isn't it?
Increased MPG is reduced fuel consumption. |
I was thinking the same, Increased MPG is surely getting more miles per gallon meaning the difference is an improvemnet?!
Always wrong.
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posted on 6-10-2008 at 23:53
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Exactly High MPG = Low consumption.
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TDIfurby
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posted on 7-10-2008 at 19:56
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Volcane
Isn't methanol rather toxic? |
oooooh yes! Hence why I put a smilie after it as I'd obviously never drink a drop. I think it only takes 400ml to be consumed and it's fatal! 
Works well in the engine though! 
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posted on 7-10-2008 at 21:07
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So would you use millers with any of the super fuels V Power, Ultimate ?
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posted on 8-10-2008 at 14:40
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Scanner
Exactly High MPG = Low consumption. |
D'ohhh. Not exactly my finest hour there. Got it the wrong way round myself when I'm always picking people up for saying things like this.
I'll go sit on the naughty step for a while.
As I get older I find myself thinking about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 8-10-2008 at 15:44
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ryan
So would you use millers with any of the super fuels V Power, Ultimate ? |
I've trialled the 'super fuels' both with and without Millers, and my conclusion is simple. Stick to normal diesel and top it up with millers, and
let the flash gits buy the expensive stuff as i personally saw no improvement, and my MPG dropped.
Always wrong.
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stu4rtparker
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posted on 8-10-2008 at 16:14
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Agree with DOTM, my MPG dropped massively with V-Power.
Where's my biodiesel & new job.
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posted on 8-10-2008 at 19:29
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I have previously recorded improved mpg using Ultimate, was particularly good in Pug 406HDI (approx 10k miles Ultimate and 10k miles regular), in fact
it was cost effective in that car … but that was before I knew about Millers.
These days I go a different route, supermarket fuel and Millers, can’t beat it. Millers costs 2.4p per litre of fuel which is way less than the
premium you’d pay for Ultimate, V-Power or Extreme (or whatever ESSO call it).
Only downside is carrying the Millers in the car and having to put it in yourself … not normally a problem, although I must admit I’ve had some evil
looks on a busy supermarket forecourt when I’ve spent an extra 30 seconds putting in a couple of measures of Millers before putting the fuel in ...
Freelander 2 TD4 GS, a fine motor (when it works) !
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TDIfurby
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posted on 8-10-2008 at 22:18
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jetA1
Only downside is carrying the Millers in the car and having to put it in yourself … not normally a problem, although I must admit I’ve had some evil
looks on a busy supermarket forecourt when I’ve spent an extra 30 seconds putting in a couple of measures of Millers before putting the fuel in ...
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I say "f**k 'em" - That Millers is important to my car, so if it takes a little longer to do it, then so be it.
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posted on 9-10-2008 at 00:37
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TDIfurby
| Quote: | Originally posted by jetA1
Only downside is carrying the Millers in the car and having to put it in yourself … not normally a problem, although I must admit I’ve had some evil
looks on a busy supermarket forecourt when I’ve spent an extra 30 seconds putting in a couple of measures of Millers before putting the fuel in ...
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I say "f**k 'em" - That Millers is important to my car, so if it takes a little longer to do it, then so be it. |
Same with me 
Always wrong.
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posted on 13-10-2008 at 12:43
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If I get funny looks at the petrol station I end up putting the fuel in even slower.........
It makes people boil!
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posted on 13-10-2008 at 14:01
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Yep same here - then I get the 2 x 25 litre drums out of the back of the car..........................................................
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posted on 13-10-2008 at 20:38
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yeah right ... but I bet you don't fill them at a UK forecourt ...
Freelander 2 TD4 GS, a fine motor (when it works) !
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posted on 27-10-2008 at 01:37
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Sorry to resurrect the thread (not that it's THAT old), but I have a question.
When my new Berlingo Multispace 1.6 HDI (90HP) arrives on Wednesday, how long do I wait before adding Power Sport 4, if I need to wait at all? I've
read everything from waiting 1,000 miles from new, to waiting 'til after the first service, etc etc.
I was just going to use it from new. After all it's "only" an additive/detergent and surely the sooner you start using it the better? Fuel
already has all kinds of detergents in it anyway, so surely no harm done? I used to use the old Millers Diesel Power in my 405 and it always paid for
itself in extra MPG, smoother running and less smoke.
All opinions/ideas welcome. I've cracked the B30 issue as per my other post, now I just need to decide how to 'run it in' I'm currently firmly in the "don't baby it, give it plenty of
stick from the get go - but not berserk on the revs, rather lots of LOAD, like hills and varying gears/revs under load" camp. Agreed?
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DERV
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posted on 27-10-2008 at 12:53
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Just to answer my own question (well, Millers did lol)... I also asked about the part of most OEM's handbooks stating no fuel additives allowed:
| Quote: | GOOD MORNING LEE THANKS FOR YOUR E MAIL WE SUGGEST YOU START TO USE AFTER 1000 MILES ALLOWING FOR EVERY THING TO BED IN
CORRECTLY.
AS FOR THE PAGE REGARDING NOT USING A FUEL ADDITIVE YOU WONT HAVE A PROBLEM.
KIND REGARDS
ALLAN |
I didn't expect them to be quite so prompt
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posted on 2-11-2008 at 13:09
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Has any one tried Total exullum have used two tank fulls of this now and seem to get more MPG car more responsive i put some millers with it its not
often i get to drive the Golf these days and when i did give it a blast found it flat wife been filling up at Tesco so gave it a blast and filled up
at Total seems quite good to me
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posted on 3-11-2008 at 13:22
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DERV
I'm currently firmly in the "don't baby it, give it plenty of stick from the get go - but not berserk on the revs, rather lots of LOAD, like hills
and varying gears/revs under load" camp. Agreed?
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You've for that backwards. The worst thing you can do is put the engine under too much load. Revs are a good thing, and will help ensure that
everything beds in ok.
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posted on 8-2-2010 at 21:32
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My question is - is there any real proof that this stuff actually works?
Trouble with these products is that it's very difficult to provide the evidence.
I've seen the Fith Gear episode that rubbished the petrol power boosting addivites. Although I don't want the power - just the lubricity and the
detergents. Anyone looking for extra 'power' from a product like this must be desperate.
Errr thanks
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posted on 8-2-2010 at 21:50
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| Quote: | | Originally posted by stonerAlthough I don't want the power - just the lubricity and the detergents.
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Personally I like Miller's, but I've still stopped using it due to several factors. Cost, distribution and the mess amongst them.
If the above (quoted) is what you're after just grab a biodiesel blend instead of plain derv and you're set. Biodiesel offers massively increased
lubricity even with a 2% blend, and it's a fantastic detergent (almost too good).
I'm going from memory, but tests by Mercedes showed that even 1% to 2% biodiesel in regular diesel increased engine life by a factor of 2 due to its
lubricity and detergent action. Biodiesel also offers a nice big cetane boost; you can really feel the car wanting to pull on the stuff, and in the
case of my engine that's to the point of needing to use the gas pedal half as much, and the brakes a lot more! It really does give extra bang for
zero extra buck...
If you don't want to mess around with 'backyard suppliers', Morrison's currently sell B30 at the pumps. If your car isn't designed to handle that
much, then their normal diesel is 7% bio already but remains at full EN spec so no need to worry about compatibility. Check the tiny small print on
the black nozzle if you don't believe me
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 8-2-2010 at 22:10
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I've stopped using Millers also.
I don't know if the car got used to it, or if it did the cleaning and now all is well, but i didn't notice any difference when i stopped using it
with the same fuel.
With that in mind, i did notice an improvement when i first started using it, but i think the previous owner used the cheapest diesel around, rather
than sticking with a good brand so millers helped to de-gunk it all.
Always wrong.
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DERV
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posted on 8-2-2010 at 22:12
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| Quote: | Originally posted by daveyonthemove
...but i think the previous owner used the cheapest diesel around, rather than sticking with a good brand so millers helped to de-gunk it all.
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Thing is though, biodiesel does exactly that (and much more) and doesn't cost £8 a bottle. 
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rapport25
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 11:42
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I have found the millers generally makes the boot stink. I always put millers in at home and then drive to the petrol station. I must admit in my
older car when i carryed it in the boot. The looks you would get were funny :ii::ii:
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 13:25
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DERV
| Quote: | Originally posted by daveyonthemove
...but i think the previous owner used the cheapest diesel around, rather than sticking with a good brand so millers helped to de-gunk it all.
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Thing is though, biodiesel does exactly that (and much more) and doesn't cost £8 a bottle. |
Not all cars can use Bio diesel though.
In fact, very few modern cars can.
Always wrong.
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DERV
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 13:49
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| Quote: | Originally posted by daveyonthemove
| Quote: | Originally posted by DERV
| Quote: | Originally posted by daveyonthemove
...but i think the previous owner used the cheapest diesel around, rather than sticking with a good brand so millers helped to de-gunk it all.
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Thing is though, biodiesel does exactly that (and much more) and doesn't cost £8 a bottle. |
Not all cars can use Bio diesel though.
In fact, very few modern cars can. |
On the contrary. The majority (all?) of the diesel fuel sold in the UK today is between 5% and 10% biodiesel. Morrison's "normal" derv is 7% for
example, and Tesco's is 5%. Plenty enough to act as a detergent, add tons of lubricity, and increase cetane. Also low enough to still conform to EN
specs, and EVERY diesel vehicle can - and does - run on it. :)
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 14:39
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Ok, it runs on a small percentage of it, as we all know, but ask any manufacturer (as has been covered on this forum before) about using bio diesel
and they say that they don't allow it and it will void warranty.
When you reffered to cars running on bio diesel i thought you meant 100% bio, not a small amount.
Anyhow, this thread is about millers??
Always wrong.
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DERV
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 14:42
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| Quote: | Originally posted by daveyonthemove
Ok, it runs on a small percentage of it, as we all know, but ask any manufacturer (as has been covered on this forum before) about using bio diesel
and they say that they don't allow it and it will void warranty.
When you reffered to cars running on bio diesel i thought you meant 100% bio, not a small amount.
Anyhow, this thread is about millers?? |
Sorry, I'll drop the OT. Since a few of us had mentioned not using Miller's any more, I just wanted to point out that with the biodiesel additive
(2% is plenty, let alone 5-10%) in fuel these days it's not something we need to worry about so much.
58 plate Citroen Berlingo Multispace II XTR 1.6 HDi 90bhp
Now officially barred from using B30 by Motability.
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daveyonthemove
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 17:02
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I missed your point in the first post, but i now see where you are coming from.
Bio diesel is still a touchy subject with manufacturers, and most won't like us using additives either, so i suppose what ever route you take will be
frowned on by the dealers.
On s slightly different note, my car (Ford) has a fuel cap with the BP logo on it, encouraging us Ford owners to use BP instead of other brands, But
my dealer used the garage across the road to fill my car up before collection, and that was a Total garage.
Plus Ford aren't paying my fuel bills, so i'll be avoiding the 2-4p a litre extra that BP like to add.
Always wrong.
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gio
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posted on 11-2-2010 at 18:20
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And now for a couple of downsides. Bio contains less energy than mineral diesel oil about 11% which mean MPG suffers! it appears major car
manufacturers are/were not happy with the lack of lubricants in low sulphur diesel fuel? The use of biodiesel in small quantities of non bio has been
around for a while,and even in these small qualities the claims are of a massive improvement in lubricity.I don't doubt that, but why are there
still major issues with injector pumps and injectors all stemming from the seaming lack of lubricants that sulphur brought?If BIO does what it says
on the bottle,then why are wear rates for these parts still major issues?
I know i have forgotten a few other related problems concerning Bio, but really don't want to do a goggle to find them. All i know is the
establishments and environmentalist,wont let a few negative facts get in the way of so called progress, at our cost though.
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